Monday, April 1, 2019
Wayne's World: WHAT DO DO.
Wayne's World: WHAT TO DO.: Afternoon,so here we are. 2nd Thessalonians chapter 3 things are said that millions today never here. And they need to. Verses 11, through 1...
WHAT TO DO.
Afternoon,so here we are. 2nd Thessalonians chapter 3 things are said that millions today never here. And they need to. Verses 11, through 15 mentions a type of disorder that can as does exist in a local church. I PERSONALLY KNOW SOME LIKE THIS.
This particular issue is about people in the church that are disorderly by living their lives in idleness, not working and earning their own living. They are also busy with other peoples affairs instead of their own. I must tell you their are other disorders going on in the local church and the scripture tells us how to handle them. We must guard against such things, and not fool ourselves. Some issues can only be fixed by removing them. Not with unholy anger, but check the situation inside and out, trying to forgive, but have the courage to do what you must to protect your congregation from such folly.
One way would be to interview with potential members, hearing their testimony etc. What i am saying is this. Screen every member going forward. This will avoid unwanted Drama and assure the peaceful exercise of worship. Which is the most important activity we are commanded. Listen up...."it's quality not quantity"
All i am saying is the hope is to spare a potential Brother or Sister and redeem them into our body of believers. If you are living in denial of a members issues,then you can not possibly redeem them.
By the way i have encountered many Local churches that do handle
these issues properly. At a more personal and up close position....i have on 2 or more occasions been prodded to intervene in some church issues. Prodded might not be the correct word, it could be highly suggested to do something... but then i get the feeling certain ones did not like the way i was so direct and did not allow any room for escape for the persons being told to vacate the church's premises, soon as possible. Wow. Say did i learn anything? Oh yes i did. I learned of the weak holes in our church leadership. I learned of jealousy in high places. Its hard to face these brothers who relish their yrs. of church leadership, yet seem to have not learned from them. Wow. I love them just the same. In other words i love them anyway. I have much more to say yet i will not at this time. You see there is no perfect church, business,or people. Only God himself.
I must keep this in mind as i move further without compromising my God given convictions. Again read 2nd Thessalonians chapter 3: verses 11 through 15. Amen.
This particular issue is about people in the church that are disorderly by living their lives in idleness, not working and earning their own living. They are also busy with other peoples affairs instead of their own. I must tell you their are other disorders going on in the local church and the scripture tells us how to handle them. We must guard against such things, and not fool ourselves. Some issues can only be fixed by removing them. Not with unholy anger, but check the situation inside and out, trying to forgive, but have the courage to do what you must to protect your congregation from such folly.
One way would be to interview with potential members, hearing their testimony etc. What i am saying is this. Screen every member going forward. This will avoid unwanted Drama and assure the peaceful exercise of worship. Which is the most important activity we are commanded. Listen up...."it's quality not quantity"
All i am saying is the hope is to spare a potential Brother or Sister and redeem them into our body of believers. If you are living in denial of a members issues,then you can not possibly redeem them.
By the way i have encountered many Local churches that do handle
these issues properly. At a more personal and up close position....i have on 2 or more occasions been prodded to intervene in some church issues. Prodded might not be the correct word, it could be highly suggested to do something... but then i get the feeling certain ones did not like the way i was so direct and did not allow any room for escape for the persons being told to vacate the church's premises, soon as possible. Wow. Say did i learn anything? Oh yes i did. I learned of the weak holes in our church leadership. I learned of jealousy in high places. Its hard to face these brothers who relish their yrs. of church leadership, yet seem to have not learned from them. Wow. I love them just the same. In other words i love them anyway. I have much more to say yet i will not at this time. You see there is no perfect church, business,or people. Only God himself.
I must keep this in mind as i move further without compromising my God given convictions. Again read 2nd Thessalonians chapter 3: verses 11 through 15. Amen.
SO FAR !!!
Good morning an update of what happens when we teach, the Bible in Sunday/School or in other venues of teaching scripture. Many have said they enjoyed my teaching, yet i must say all the glory goes to Jesus. I can only take credit for trying very hard to study,keeping a fresh desire to search scripture and then fill voids in churches that need teachers. I will mention some observations i have been effected by personally.
Sunday School seems to be the one event in churches today that can be done with or without. Food fellowship, music, and then Preaching, and all these have no time limit. Now Bible study of any kind takes a back seat to all the others mentioned. Bells ring for dismissal on only the Sunday School. Wow. Have you listened to some of your members views on Bible doctrine? So many people in the wrong denomination these days. So many are not even aware of the beliefs of the church they attend. Some just think they know.
Most churches have what they call Articles of faith, yet most of their members have no clue what they are, or what they say.
Most church goers do not support any teaching whatsoever in their church. Lets sing and feel good, lets eat and joke with each other and feel good, and lets hope the Preacher can make us feel good and just in case he does not....then we can tolerate anything for an hour. Teaching breaks down the preaching, to where the rubber meets the road. It explains to us exactly what certain Scriptures mean in our lives. The preacher merely acts as the cheerleader for the Word. My mention of the preacher is in no wise speaking bad about him. I can do that later if the Lord leads that direction. Let me end this this way.....A greater desire to study and share the Word of God will lead to a much closer walk with God. I know because it works for me. Also i must add that i am not just getting this off my chest(so to speak) because these issues seem to be of epidemic proportion. So i expect to have to deal with them more as i move forward. I will next give a brief comment or two about proper behavior in church. It to has become more and more an issue. With God's help we will address it soon. Amen.
Sunday School seems to be the one event in churches today that can be done with or without. Food fellowship, music, and then Preaching, and all these have no time limit. Now Bible study of any kind takes a back seat to all the others mentioned. Bells ring for dismissal on only the Sunday School. Wow. Have you listened to some of your members views on Bible doctrine? So many people in the wrong denomination these days. So many are not even aware of the beliefs of the church they attend. Some just think they know.
Most churches have what they call Articles of faith, yet most of their members have no clue what they are, or what they say.
Most church goers do not support any teaching whatsoever in their church. Lets sing and feel good, lets eat and joke with each other and feel good, and lets hope the Preacher can make us feel good and just in case he does not....then we can tolerate anything for an hour. Teaching breaks down the preaching, to where the rubber meets the road. It explains to us exactly what certain Scriptures mean in our lives. The preacher merely acts as the cheerleader for the Word. My mention of the preacher is in no wise speaking bad about him. I can do that later if the Lord leads that direction. Let me end this this way.....A greater desire to study and share the Word of God will lead to a much closer walk with God. I know because it works for me. Also i must add that i am not just getting this off my chest(so to speak) because these issues seem to be of epidemic proportion. So i expect to have to deal with them more as i move forward. I will next give a brief comment or two about proper behavior in church. It to has become more and more an issue. With God's help we will address it soon. Amen.
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